Manchester United and their 'awful midfield' should settle for top 6 - Mark Ogden | ESPN FC

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  • Published: 09 January 2020
  • ESPN FC's Mark Ogden weighs in on Man United's "cultural reset" and what the club needs to change if they want to find success on a consistent basis again. Ogden says based on the lack of quality in midfield, the club should aim for a top-six finish instead of top-four. He also adds that Man Utd "lacks ruthlessness and edge," which is a reflection of the lack of leadership from top to bottom.

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Comments • 301

  • Mervyn Walton
    Mervyn Walton  2 weeks back

    He got Cardiff relegated, it was Cardiff!

    • Daniel Newman
      Daniel Newman  3 weeks back

      these guys know nothing about football

      • Nick mag
        Nick mag  3 weeks back

        “Awful midfield” has Fred their best midfielder on the thumbnail

        • Subodh Adavadkar
          Subodh Adavadkar  3 weeks back

          Mark Ogden is stealing a living acting to be a journalist

          • Cass Jnr
            Cass Jnr  3 weeks back

            This guy is a boring tool. Yeah let's find a midfielder who can do all that , but is also willing to come to us.

            • Marvin Smith
              Marvin Smith  3 weeks back

              United can only get better when they get a sporting director and then they'll finally stop investing in British players

              • NN D
                NN D  3 weeks back

                Without signing 3 players we are not going to CL

                • aklordx
                  aklordx  3 weeks back

                  facts.

                  • 0092mateo
                    0092mateo  3 weeks back

                    Why Dirk Nowitzki always sad ?

                    • Fazil Mohammed
                      Fazil Mohammed  3 weeks back

                      New manager needed now to stop the cracks from turning into a crater get ole out now

                      • Hautaaja
                        Hautaaja  3 weeks back

                        This guy is snoozefest.. it's the style how he speaks

                        • fred jones
                          fred jones  3 weeks back

                          without bashing man United,,this garbage excuse for a show would no viewers at all,,,,

                          • Alhadji Iddriss
                            Alhadji Iddriss  3 weeks back

                            This guy’s spot on❗️❗️

                            • Cass Jnr
                              Cass Jnr  3 weeks back

                              No he's not. This guy is an idiot. The fact he said Dr Gea hasn't been his best the last 3/4 years.

                          • Tom D
                            Tom D  3 weeks back

                            Solksjaer got the job because all the United supporters were furiously masturbating when he won a few games when he first took over, & demanding him to be given it full time. Own it United fans, you put him there it's no use blaming Woodward or anyone else!

                            • xBYRNEZx
                              xBYRNEZx  3 weeks back

                              Ed Woodward needs to be moved to a different department or SACKED.
                              He's the poison along with the Glazers that are rotting this club with horrible football decisions.. no sporting director.. no proper recruitment.. no club identity and no style of play.. appointing a manager who should be coaching a League 2 team this club is failing because of Ed but the Glazers don't care since they get $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

                              • sup Gee
                                sup Gee  3 weeks back

                                We’re just a banter club now.. De Gea had the worst six months of his career.. Madrid didn’t want him anymore, neither did PSG... and we made him the highest paid keepers in the world.. and he’s still flapping at crosses... it’s a joke..

                                • Aditya Malaviya
                                  Aditya Malaviya  3 weeks back

                                  Ever since Van Gaal United have become an extremely injury prone team, why is nobody questioning that ?

                                  • vishal anything
                                    vishal anything  3 weeks back

                                    Mark should keep his mouth shut and awful face away from United

                                    • Jim West
                                      Jim West  3 weeks back

                                      Who is Mark Ogden to give an opinion?

                                    • Heioshi
                                      Heioshi  3 weeks back

                                      David Moyes for too long? He didnt even finish his first season!

                                      • Dick Dingwiza
                                        Dick Dingwiza  3 weeks back

                                        Did Ogden see Utd picking up points against City, Spurs, Liverpool, Leicester, Chelsea in the first half? Nothing new there....

                                        • Dick Dingwiza
                                          Dick Dingwiza  3 weeks back

                                          Slabhead: The difference is Utd has played well against ALL of the top teams, not just the odd result (like Palace) so it’s just not the kind of upset you talk of. Ogden also says Utd held onto Moyes too long - try defending that one. According to Ogden, Utd should be in a relegation scrap right now... unfortunately for him (and others), log position is determined by results on the pitch not pundits’ opinions

                                        • Slabhead
                                          Slabhead  3 weeks back

                                          UTD picking up points against these teams is the same as Crystal Palace and Newcastle etc picking up the points its an upset win not a proper win

                                      • Shakeel Ahmed
                                        Shakeel Ahmed  3 weeks back

                                        Don't know what everyone problem is there only 5 point behind 4th place I wish they where in 19th place😂😂😂

                                        • Drew Summerz
                                          Drew Summerz  3 weeks back

                                          🤢🤢

                                          • Andrew Hassell
                                            Andrew Hassell  3 weeks back

                                            Y’all list pep as a manager of credential but I want y’all to remember he did win anything before he was Barcelona manager, which he inherited as a bomb squad tbh. ESPN hires a lot of cunts for pundits. That is more factual that most of what y’all say.

                                            • code alpha
                                              code alpha  3 weeks back

                                              Better leave Ole than putting Poch in because it won’t change a thing

                                              • ankur srivastav
                                                ankur srivastav  3 weeks back

                                                Mark Ogden... More like Mark Boredom

                                                • 3 KIDS
                                                  3 KIDS  3 weeks back

                                                  Lot of United Stand fans in the comments. All the deluded sheep saying Fred is good 😂

                                                  • Chiradeep Ghosh
                                                    Chiradeep Ghosh  3 weeks back

                                                    Getting into top 4 is as likely as moving out of top 10... Very tight competition...

                                                    • N!njA_ kachorRI
                                                      N!njA_ kachorRI  3 weeks back

                                                      This dude needs to put some expressions on his face, stop being monotonous and for god sake stop speaking slowly.

                                                    • Sieg
                                                      Sieg  3 weeks back

                                                      David De Gea won the 2017/18 Manchester United Player of the Year and the Premier League Golden Glove. Meanwhile we got this clown Mark Ogden saying "3 or 4 years past his best"

                                                      • djpetrez
                                                        djpetrez  3 weeks back

                                                        He is right though so whats that saying about the rest of the team

                                                    • Jim 83
                                                      Jim 83  3 weeks back

                                                      Mourinho was right, he got a bang average squad to 2nd, back in the UCL and won the Europa cup and wanted investment in new better players as he saw what was wrong.

                                                      All the so called United “supporters” turned on him, things started to drop, he got frustrated and the players downed tools.

                                                      Now look where they are...

                                                      Serves them right tbh

                                                      • Mr.Bubbles
                                                        Mr.Bubbles  3 weeks back

                                                        @Jim 83 he spent over 300 million net.......ole has spent 60 million net. arguing over which is the better manager is like arguing over which is the best std. fact is we need a proper coach like Poch or Nagelsmann.

                                                      • Jim 83
                                                        Jim 83  3 weeks back

                                                        Mr.Bubbles if that is what you tell yourself to feel better about the fact he was right then fine 😂

                                                        Simple fact is he is MILES better than what you have now and the most successful coach since fergie

                                                        If he was backed with the money they gave Ole and he won the league you would be dancing in the streets fella let’s be real 🤣

                                                      • Mr.Bubbles
                                                        Mr.Bubbles  3 weeks back

                                                        @Jim 83 i think we all know how it ends with mourinho. the guy plays the worst football i have ever seen at Utd, even Ole's worst isn't as dull as mourinho's tactics. such a negative boring manager who was never right for the club. neither is Ole probably but at least he gave us a couple months of happiness after the depression of mourinho ball.

                                                      • Jim 83
                                                        Jim 83  3 weeks back

                                                        Mr.Bubbles it’s not how you start it’s how you finish

                                                        Using your logic you would have said Ole was the best manager in the league after his first 10 games 😂

                                                        Say what you want about Mourinho but to call him anything other than one of the best managers of the modern era just makes you either blind or a fool...

                                                      • Mr.Bubbles
                                                        Mr.Bubbles  3 weeks back

                                                        yeah.................cause Mourinho is doing so well at Spurs with a better squad...............oh wait.

                                                    • Jeffrey Razzouk
                                                      Jeffrey Razzouk  3 weeks back

                                                      So Marc Ogden is sayin that Paul Pogba isn't a midfielder that can control the game, create goals, and score goals?!?!

                                                      • REDS YAAD BOYS 876 TV
                                                        REDS YAAD BOYS 876 TV  3 weeks back

                                                        Big up yourself mark goldbridge

                                                        • REDS YAAD BOYS 876 TV
                                                          REDS YAAD BOYS 876 TV  3 weeks back

                                                          I know you guys watch the United stand

                                                          • MrUmpaman9
                                                            MrUmpaman9  3 weeks back

                                                            ‘They held on to Moyes for too long’. He left after 6 months you dope

                                                            • Talia Mason
                                                              Talia Mason  3 weeks back

                                                              @Leland Carpenter He stayed for all but the last 3 matches of which Ryan Giggs put in charge of. In other words he was sacked when it was no longer mathematically possible to get into the top 4.

                                                            • Joshua obaga
                                                              Joshua obaga  3 weeks back

                                                              6 months was long enough to shatter Fergie's legacy. So i would definitely say United held onto him for too long.

                                                            • Bl@ck Heart
                                                              [email protected] Heart  3 weeks back

                                                              @Kumar Sharma he deserved to be sacked but it was horrible he was sacked a day after the win

                                                            • Ben Jammin
                                                              Ben Jammin  3 weeks back

                                                              @Leland Carpenter Giggs took over for the end of the season

                                                            • Kumar Sharma
                                                              Kumar Sharma  3 weeks back

                                                              Even LVG deserved more time after that the FA cup Victory...

                                                          • J cal
                                                            J cal  3 weeks back

                                                            Fred is underrated

                                                            • Himura Kenshin
                                                              Himura Kenshin  3 weeks back

                                                              He ain't underrated, he just bang average .. it is what it is nothing about him is undertated

                                                            • Chris
                                                              Chris  3 weeks back

                                                              J cal would he get anywhere near the City, Liverpool or Leicester midfield? No, even Chelsea in transition have far better midfielders

                                                          • MrUmpaman9
                                                            MrUmpaman9  3 weeks back

                                                            Even though I don’t think the likes of Lingard and Young should be in the starting line up or really on the bench, unless United buy double the amount of players they sell, they shouldn’t sell anyone this window. They are already very short on players.

                                                            • Slice Of Life 1985
                                                              Slice Of Life 1985  3 weeks back

                                                              BUY MESSI

                                                              • Miguel Soriano
                                                                Miguel Soriano  3 weeks back

                                                                Fred is the only decent midfielder they have... again decent not amazing and I think he can be better under a good manager and a good structure.

                                                              • AFifa tech
                                                                AFifa tech  3 weeks back

                                                                There are 2 things which didn't work for man utd since sir Alex left,
                                                                The combination of recruitment and backing up managers with money to spend and a world-class manager whose presence means for players ,
                                                                When loui van gaal came they bought many good players like Di Maria ,falcao, rojo, mata, depay and other players but the manager still couldn't bring those players together and build a good team with mentality to win he depended too much on the players to get some results but man utd again held on to him for too long ,
                                                                They brought in Jose mourinho, in his second season they let him spend money and I think he did quiet well with the squad with 83 points it's just that city were too good with 100 points , but he got annoyed in his 3rd season when he wasn't backed to strengthen his squad to compete with city and other teams and it just got worse and he lost it.
                                                                And now if you see the man utd squad it's even worse there are no names who I could really see as world-class and a manager who is struggling with this squad
                                                                So it's a combination of recruitment , good manager and not backing the manager.

                                                                They did a mistake by not backing mourinho

                                                                • greg brian
                                                                  greg brian  3 weeks back

                                                                  I keep telling people one good window is not enough, buying a player is always a risk we need a couple of windows to get it right. Sometimes you can buy three or four world class players but your just short of two to make things better but when the results are not there blame the manager suck him bring another the last players from the other coach are not good enough for him buys another players and the cycle continues

                                                              • Oeks Lohk
                                                                Oeks Lohk  3 weeks back

                                                                United is a joke of a club...Their biggest achievement in the last 2 seasons was beating City a few weeks ago. They celebrated like they won the league only to get fucked earlier this week.

                                                                • Bing Bong Bing
                                                                  Bing Bong Bing  3 weeks back

                                                                  Ed woodward is egotistical Hobbit!!

                                                                  • Tell
                                                                    Tell  3 weeks back

                                                                    Pochetino sucks

                                                                    • Harry Ojo
                                                                      Harry Ojo  3 weeks back

                                                                      Mark Goldbridge has been saying this. Mainstream media finally catching on.

                                                                      • 3 KIDS
                                                                        3 KIDS  3 weeks back

                                                                        The Spires College Tribute my favourite Goldbridge moment was last summer when his “source” told him United were going to buy Fernandes, Rabiot and Munier 😂 the only “source” Goldbridge has is Ketchup.

                                                                      • The Spires College Tribute
                                                                        The Spires College Tribute  3 weeks back

                                                                        3 KIDS 👏🏻exactly. It’s amazing how having a YouTube channel with a fancy background suddenly turns people into sheep thinking you know what you’re talking about. Guaranteed he’s the same bloke who if you met him in the pub you’d roll your eyes at because he thinks he knows what he’s talking about but he doesn’t. Let’s be honest it doesn’t take much to work out our owners are horrendous and our midfield is abysmal.

                                                                      • 3 KIDS
                                                                        3 KIDS  3 weeks back

                                                                        Mark Goldbridge thinks Fred is good and Bruno Fernandes would be stupid enough to sign for us. He’s also the same guy who before we signed Wan Bissaka said if you thought he was good, quote “you’d never watched him play”, the same guy who said about us signing Haaland, quote “is pretty nailed on he’s signing for Manchester United” just days before he signed for Dortmund. The guys clueless.

                                                                      • Liverpool FC the greatest club in the world.
                                                                        Liverpool FC the greatest club in the world.  3 weeks back

                                                                        Give him time!! It's 1989!! 🤭🤭🤭

                                                                    • timoe
                                                                      timoe  3 weeks back

                                                                      Imo either wait on zidane or go for ajax manager.

                                                                    • Tell
                                                                      Tell  3 weeks back

                                                                      This idiot. Le won 3 championships in Norway and holds the record for best start with a team. The problem is the players. They are 5 points off 4. ESPN sucks.

                                                                      • Hamdan Nadeem
                                                                        Hamdan Nadeem  3 weeks back

                                                                        Fred and Mctominay have been good this season, its just our CAM who is just abysmal in Perreira and Lingard

                                                                        • Kevin Bergin
                                                                          Kevin Bergin  3 weeks back

                                                                          Fred is terrible. Mctominay is solid if hes next to a guy like pogba. Andreas and Lingard are awful. Mata is way passed his prime.

                                                                        • geen-zin
                                                                          geen-zin  3 weeks back

                                                                          Ajax' Van de Beek

                                                                        • just stunning
                                                                          just stunning  3 weeks back

                                                                          Fred has been oké I think our moest consistant midfielder this season, but o agree in a league winning side he wouldn’t start, but Pogba would and instead of appreciating him the fans made sure he wants to leave, thnx for that now we’ll have a even weaker midfield and knowing the glazers they won’t spend the Pogba money on 2 quality or 1 fantastic player but just an average player like Madison😢😢

                                                                        • 3 KIDS
                                                                          3 KIDS  3 weeks back

                                                                          Fred has been good 🤣🤣🤣 wow how standards haven’t dropped. The useless twonk can’t pass, shoot or tackle.... but he’s been good at pushing opposition players off when they’re being subbed. Inept and abysmal player.

                                                                        • Sushant Rawal
                                                                          Sushant Rawal  3 weeks back

                                                                          Fred and mctominay average suckers

                                                                      • Jamston Julian
                                                                        Jamston Julian  3 weeks back

                                                                        Another hour, another ESPN video on Man Utd...