Why Lionel Messi deserved to win the Ballon d'Or over Virgil van Dijk | ESPN FC

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  • Published: 03 December 2019
  • ESPN FC's Alejandro Moreno, Steve Nicol and Julien Laurens react to Lionel Messi's sixth Ballon d'Or triumph. The guys examine how Lionel Messi and Virgil van Dijk's seasons for Barcelona and Liverpool compare. Moreno and Laurens argue that Messi was most deserving of the award for "the way he's carried Barca." Nicol contends that Messi may be the best player in the world, but Van Dijk had a better 12 months.

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  • Karl Fulton
    Karl Fulton  2 days back

    I'd be impressed more if Messi had done what he did in the premier League.. Like Suarez has... So you give it to him for carrying the team?.. What about GERRARD 2005.?

    • Karl Fulton
      Karl Fulton  2 days back

      DID ALEXANDER ARNOLD NOT IMPRESS ANYONE?.. FIRST RIGHT BACK TO HIT THE GUINESS BOOK OF RECORDS. FOR GOALS AND ASSISTS.

      • Tripp Towler
        Tripp Towler  6 days back

        nice

        • Ray Indra
          Ray Indra  6 days back

          Argentinean national team needed Messi ? I think that football is not boxing or tennis ? Indeed the stats of Messi are incredible

          • CROWMANS SKY TV
            CROWMANS SKY TV  6 days back

            Van dijk should of won he made liverpool win champions league and messi couldn't win champions league and van dijk winning the english league this year

            • Hung Fei Lee
              Hung Fei Lee  7 days back

              media n votes is biased toward a need for messi to win. but van dijk deserve more as he is significant to liverpool titles more over messi to barcelona based on overall year progress

              • terry phidaheights
                terry phidaheights  1 weeks back

                this isnt the only time van dijk will finish second this season.....mcfc

                • Fidelis Chibwe
                  Fidelis Chibwe  1 weeks back

                  Messi deserved to win

                  • Aboubacar Sidick Diaby
                    Aboubacar Sidick Diaby  1 weeks back

                    légende du football Léo

                    • YSfifa
                      YSfifa  1 weeks back

                      When they asked if Liverpool would win the champions league with Messi, the most simple answer is 'Yes'. Now not saying VVD isnt important for Liverpool, but as a whole that team is better than Barcelona if you stripped Messi and VVD out the picture. Liverpool would have the best attack in the world if they had Messi, and would still have Alisson who is the best goalkeeper in the world arguably.

                      • toto maxwell
                        toto maxwell  1 weeks back

                        FAKE BS BALLON D'OR

                        • Mewan Dlyngdoh
                          Mewan Dlyngdoh  1 weeks back

                          This YouTube channel is so bais..

                          • Tik Xiong
                            Tik Xiong  1 weeks back

                            Messi👍👍👍👍 no question as long as he still there to play... who wants to win the Ballon d’Or will have to wait till he is retiring from soccer.......

                            • Yazz Street
                              Yazz Street  1 weeks back

                              Ronaldo won the ballon dor when he was at United .. and when he was in Spain .. he’s the goat

                              • hugues dupiton
                                hugues dupiton  1 weeks back

                                Messi remontada submissive expert 😂😂😂
                                Messi the hoax

                                • Shem Boss
                                  Shem Boss  1 weeks back

                                  Messi didn't deserve

                                  • devandran
                                    devandran  1 weeks back

                                    Messi would be unstoppable if he had choosed Spain over Argentina

                                    • The 360 Gaming zone
                                      The 360 Gaming zone  1 weeks back

                                      Ronaldo is always my motivation he is very hardworking and the fittest among all football players.

                                      • Sammy 10
                                        Sammy 10  1 weeks back

                                        Liverpool fan boys logic
                                        Robertson best lb
                                        Allison best gk
                                        Gomez one of the most promising cb
                                        Fabinho beast in cdm
                                        Firmino attacker with cdm defending stats
                                        But vvd carried whole defense without vvd liverpool has poor defense xD like really

                                        • Rosario Nunez
                                          Rosario Nunez  1 weeks back

                                          He only plays well with Barcelona outside of that “nada”

                                          • Marc Lamparter
                                            Marc Lamparter  1 weeks back

                                            What r u talking about? He plays great for Argentina as well. Or do u HV the inside scoop on some secret team he plays for?

                                        • Abu Mansaray
                                          Abu Mansaray  1 weeks back

                                          lol, Ronald's states were better last season than Mess's states this season🤔

                                          • Gordon Owens
                                            Gordon Owens  1 weeks back

                                            Mani was ranked 4th?!! Mani should have won, he never gives up makes incredible goals, involves his teammates to win games. Messi is not a clutch player and his time has past.

                                            • Jayden Jones
                                              Jayden Jones  1 weeks back

                                              If were being honest messi should have 7 and Ronaldo should have 3
                                              Messi should have won it in 2012/13 (not Ribéry and definitely not Ronaldo) Ribéry had 11 goals 24 assists and yes he won the champions league but he had 1 goal and 5 assists, Ronaldo had 55 goals 12 assists in 55 games 0 trophies, Messi had 60 goals 15 assists in 50 games and a domestic double. Suarez should have won it in 2015/16 he had 59 goals 22 assists in 58 games with a domestic double Ronaldo had 51 goals 15 assists and the champions league as well as the euros however he didn’t have major contributions in the KO stage so that one is debatable but I’d give it to Suárez. and in 2018 it shouldn’t have been Modrić but it also shouldn’t have been Ronaldo, Mbappe should have won it he had 21 goals 15 assists and won the World Cup. Should be messi 7 Ronaldo 3 but the media wants to create the rivalry so I get it.

                                              • Shauka Hodan
                                                Shauka Hodan  1 weeks back

                                                Stevie is "worldwide liverpool fans in a nutshell".

                                            • Brian Payne Jr
                                              Brian Payne Jr  1 weeks back

                                              5:05 will forever be spoken, you cannot deny the facts and stats he has put up throughout his career. CR7 is a phenomenal player and athlete but there is only 1 GOAT

                                              • Shauka Hodan
                                                Shauka Hodan  1 weeks back

                                                somehow Barça even would have lost with less goals than 4 (where Barça would have won in aggregate) against Liverpool then we wouldn't be having this conversation.

                                            • Emmanuel Alagbala
                                              Emmanuel Alagbala  1 weeks back

                                              What more should Van Dijk have done to help Liverpool or The Netherlands? Everyone is comparing Van Dijk as an attacker to Messi as an attacker instead of Van Dijk as a defender to Messi as an attacker.

                                              • Sniper Headshot
                                                Sniper Headshot  1 weeks back

                                                Scoring 50 goals in a season in normal for Messi but a lifetime dream hard to realize for most of the players...

                                                • okow tina
                                                  okow tina  1 weeks back

                                                  Messi definitely carried Barca but Liverpool improves immensely once VVD entered that club

                                              • faisikv faisikv
                                                faisikv faisikv  1 weeks back

                                                Messi is the best football history ever ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

                                                • John Adan
                                                  John Adan  1 weeks back

                                                  Good for him

                                                  • okow tina
                                                    okow tina  1 weeks back

                                                    In this guy had ...if Barca is wining..is because of Messi...if is loosing..is ...because of......Liverpool 😂😂😂😂😂

                                                • RichieBRZ16
                                                  RichieBRZ16  1 weeks back

                                                  Of the top 7 players voted 4 of them are Liverpool players. Van Dyk is great but he has way more help than Messi. Messi is clearly the best also most valuable. End of story.

                                                  • Thapelo Kgoadi
                                                    Thapelo Kgoadi  1 weeks back

                                                    Still not the greatest in my opinions put the oldies in this time they match or even better his records,one that comes to mind is Eusebio,in my opinion he should be in the GOAT conversation.

                                                    • Priestc12345
                                                      Priestc12345  1 weeks back

                                                      It’s painful listening to Ale

                                                      • mixio hili
                                                        mixio hili  1 weeks back

                                                        You are the best

                                                        • ntahla gaming
                                                          ntahla gaming  1 weeks back

                                                          van Dijk quite poor this season and Ronaldo slumped badly.
                                                          Messi deserved it more than any other player this year

                                                          • Pt Bot
                                                            Pt Bot  1 weeks back

                                                            Then explain how Luca Modric won the Ballon D'or last year. Messi put up practically the same goal and assist stats. Won the La Liga. All just like THIS year. But why did he not deserve Ballon D'or last year too. Modric wasn't even the one to carry RM. RM still had ronaldo, and even Bale, who contributed to their CL win. If we're gonna give Ballon D'or to the player with best stats, only messi and ronaldo should win them in the past 10 years.

                                                            if you look at barca and liverpool roster last year, then you can;t say Barca is deficient. Their players just didnt play to their full potential. Meanwhile, VVD transformed Liverpool entire defence and lifted the whole team's performance. He made Joe Gomez, Matip, Loven into world class defender. His solid defence gave platform to the workman midfield with the like of Hendo, Gini, Milner to play so well.

                                                            What did Messi do to lift his fellow player?

                                                            • mixio hili
                                                              mixio hili  1 weeks back

                                                              lool so funny,i thought only champions league winners win the balon d 'or. so funny ronaldo was top goal scorer in 2017/18 season and helped madrid win their hatrick but di

                                                          • Tao of Paul
                                                            Tao of Paul  1 weeks back

                                                            There is no criteria so everyone’s right

                                                            • Guillermo Fernandez
                                                              Guillermo Fernandez  1 weeks back

                                                              These people swear that Messi’s team isn’t surrounded by some of the best players in the world 😂 *specifically picked at their best moments to play with him*

                                                              • Shiyam Khaled Chowdhury

                                                                Agreed. He carried them both in LaLiga(top scorer) and UCL(top scorer. You can't judge him by just 90 min of 2nd leg, not to mention how good he was in the 1st leg. If somehow Barça even would have lost with less goals than 4 (where Barça would have won in aggregate) against Liverpool then we wouldn't be having this conversation.

                                                                • Shauka Hodan
                                                                  Shauka Hodan  1 weeks back

                                                                  Stevie is "worldwide liverpool fans in a nutshell".

                                                                  • John Cornell
                                                                    John Cornell  1 weeks back

                                                                    Messi doesn't seem to turn up in the big CL away knockout games. Mediocre at Liverpool in 2019, mediocre at Roma in 2018, mediocre at PSG and Juventus in 2017 and mediocre at Atletico on 2016.
                                                                    I see a pattern.
                                                                    Even Van Dijk scored more CL knockout away goals last season.........and he's a defender.

                                                                    • Joao Flores
                                                                      Joao Flores  1 weeks back

                                                                      Ronaldo was rob last year

                                                                      • Shauka Hodan
                                                                        Shauka Hodan  1 weeks back

                                                                        one or no defense could stop him. Watch, Dijk can’t dominate 5 or 10 years from now.

                                                                    • Bogdy Bogdy
                                                                      Bogdy Bogdy  1 weeks back

                                                                      In this guy had ...if Barca is wining..is because of Messi...if is loosing..is ...because of......Liverpool 😂😂😂😂😂

                                                                      • Jason Caruana
                                                                        Jason Caruana  1 weeks back

                                                                        Messi definitely carried Barca but Liverpool improves immensely once VVD entered that club

                                                                        • John Cornell
                                                                          John Cornell  1 weeks back

                                                                          @Jason Caruana
                                                                          Indeed. Barca had Xavi, Iniesta, Puyol (World and European Champions with Spain). We see that Barcelona haven't won the CL again since the days of Xavi, Iniesta, Puyol. I don't know why some people seem to insist only Messi turned Barcelona into such a great team.
                                                                          Liverpool hadn't reached a CL final for 12 years. 4 months after Van Dijk joined, they did. Then they won it the following year.

                                                                        • Jason Caruana
                                                                          Jason Caruana  1 weeks back

                                                                          John Cornell agree during the past 15 years Barca would still have won a champions league and definitely a few league titles without him, Liverpool well we are seeing what they have become with VVD on defence

                                                                        • John Cornell
                                                                          John Cornell  1 weeks back

                                                                          Yep. The difference is staggering. Barcelona were already Champions League winners in 2006 before Messi had an impact.

                                                                      • Mohammed Bazil
                                                                        Mohammed Bazil  1 weeks back

                                                                        If any one can stop messi10 its only cr7 (i know last year luka won)

                                                                        • Tauqeer Ahmad
                                                                          Tauqeer Ahmad  1 weeks back

                                                                          Goood video

                                                                          • david padilla
                                                                            david padilla  1 weeks back

                                                                            The question should be why he didn't deserve to win the trophy over van dijk i will answer that with 3 words he got robbed yes van dijk got robbed messy had no business winning that trophy he didnt do much of anything for his club or his national team but van dijk won the champions league and i think he was the top scorer in that competition fifa got it wrong just because your messy or ronaldo diesnt mean you automatic win it and excluding the other top players that won more tgan this 2 it was rigged tgey wanted messy to win it no matter if you didnt win tge champions shame on the organizers of this award they gave that ballon de or to the wrong player shame on them messy didnt do enough to win it messy and barcelona fail to go the finals and liverpoil deserve to win it that's why this award was rigged van dijk beat messy and barcelona to get to the champions final and win it shame on them van dijk got robbed big time please do the right thing messy give that trophy back to van dijk the player that deserve to win it !! What a shame!!

                                                                            • John Cornell
                                                                              John Cornell  1 weeks back

                                                                              Too many people voted for other Liverpool players like Mane. Van Dijk only missed out by 7 votes, sadly.

                                                                          • okow tina
                                                                            okow tina  1 weeks back

                                                                            Alisson has more to do with the CL title than VVD.

                                                                            • cristiano Alves
                                                                              cristiano Alves  1 weeks back

                                                                              Moreno will never stop riding messi wagons

                                                                              • Klopp AllTheWay
                                                                                Klopp AllTheWay  1 weeks back

                                                                                I got only 2 questions, where was Messi when Barca needed only one goal to reach the final? And where was VVD when Liverpool need 4 goals and a clean sheet?

                                                                                • John Cornell
                                                                                  John Cornell  1 weeks back

                                                                                  @Klopp AllTheWay
                                                                                  Messi doesn't seem to turn up in the big CL away knockout games. Mediocre at Liverpool in 2019, mediocre at Roma in 2018, mediocre at PSG and Juventus in 2017 and mediocre at Atletico on 2016.
                                                                                  I see a pattern.
                                                                                  Even Van Dijk scored more CL knockout away goals last season.........and he's a defender.

                                                                                • Klopp AllTheWay
                                                                                  Klopp AllTheWay  1 weeks back

                                                                                  John Cornell those people r clueless. Messi won because they used to vote for him, not as he was the best player last season.

                                                                                • John Cornell
                                                                                  John Cornell  1 weeks back

                                                                                  Indeed.