The Economics That Made Boeing Build the 737 Max

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  • Published: 30 April 2019
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    References:
    [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/08/business/boeing-737-max-.html
    [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_jet_airliners
    [3] https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/boeing-boss-green-lights-all-new-next-generation-nar-353056/
    [4] http://web.mit.edu/airlinedata/www/2017%2012%20Month%20Documents/Aircraft%20and%20Related/Small%20Narrow/Average%20Daily%20Airborne%20Hours%20of%20Total%20Small%20Narrowbody%20Fleet.htm; http://web.mit.edu/airlinedata/www/2017%2012%20Month%20Documents/Aircraft%20and%20Related/Widebody/Average%20Daily%20Airborne%20Hours%20of%20Total%20Widebody%20Fleet.htm
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Comments • 3 878

  • Wendover Productions
    Wendover Productions   7 months back

    Hey all, 
    I hope you find this video interesting. It is meant to provide an overview of what led to Boeing creating the 737 MAX rather than giving a comprehensive overview of the factors leading to the two crashes and the issues with MCAS so the explanation on that is quick. If you want to learn more about that, I would suggest starting with this article: https://theaircurrent.com/aviation-safety/vestigal-design-issue-clouds-737-max-crash-investigations/

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    • polygondwanaland
      polygondwanaland  1 weeks back

      I disagree strongly with your conclusion. The Boeing 737 MAX was a conceptually fine design, and will eventually return to flight and live a hopefully uneventful career. The thing Boeing did that was criminally negligent was creating a safety critical design with no redundancy, and then not training pilots about it's failure modes. That is absolutely inexcusable, but isn't an indictment of "let's just reengine Betsy again". The idea to reengine the design isn't what caused the fault, the *negligence* of Boeing's MCAS implementation did.

    • StellarBlue1
      StellarBlue1  3 weeks back

      Why cant Boeing just omit the entire MCAS system? Just tell the 737 crews about the different center of gravity and airflow changes to the 737 Max fuselage and get on with it?

    • Bob Daye
      Bob Daye  1 months back

      @jec6613 On one plane that crashed the co-pilot had only 200 hours.

    • FooBar Maximus
      FooBar Maximus  1 months back

      I found it interesting that someone with so little knowledge of commercial aircraft and aviation would have the balls to post a video about a commercial aircraft, posing as some type of "expert". And I emphasize the word "posing". <<<

    • William & Fannie
      William & Fannie  2 months back

      I love Boeing.The question we must ask..why didn't any Us carriers ( B737-max) crashed.
      Is it the mandated rest periods for the pilots?
      Is it the training ?
      Or is it Lion air and Ethiopian airlines flight Safety record.
      Is it cost cutting ?
      What is safety..An uncompromising approach to standard operating procedures.
      Another question to add to the list..Is it climate change?
      Is the weather affecting aircraft performance?

      Hmmmmmmm💯🙏💯🤔

  • Xenomorph Biologist - XX121

    3:40 Vancouver Airport

    Hail from Canada 🇨🇦

    • Kevi Kiru
      Kevi Kiru  2 days back

      Good coverage

      • Michael Brown
        Michael Brown  2 days back

        This video was apparently sponsored by Airbus.

        • Paolo Ariedo
          Paolo Ariedo  6 days back

          Should we worry that we might see the same thing with the*Airbus A321XLR,* though?

          • dstblj 52
            dstblj 52  1 days back

            Two of the nine sorry for the typo.

          • dstblj 52
            dstblj 52  1 days back

            All Airbus is doing with the XLR is converting to of the 9 sections used to store luggage and where some airlines already put auxiliary fuel tanks and replaced them with fixed built into the plane fuel tanks, which simplifies the tanks reducing weight and increasing volume. Only real risk with the XLR is a slightly higher chance your bag gets left behind for size or weight and balance reasons, but that's still probably better then connecting which will be your other choice.

        • ZephenomZ
          ZephenomZ  7 days back

          The solution that they could've done is increase the gap between the aircraft & the ground.

          • Sun_skimmer 89
            Sun_skimmer 89  3 days back

            It's just not that simple.. that would require changing the landing gear, making it longer. That would require more complex redesigns to add more space for the gear and.. well you see where this is going

        • LUIZ GUSTAVO
          LUIZ GUSTAVO  1 weeks back

          when I saw Boeing employers at the factory, assembling airplanes, wearing clothes like they are making a barbecue in a backyard, I notice something is wrong with this company.

          • Off-Centred UwU
            Off-Centred UwU  1 weeks back

            Short answer: money

            • Ember McLain
              Ember McLain  1 weeks back

              Money over lives

              • Aniruddha Kabbya
                Aniruddha Kabbya  1 weeks back

                And this video is on my Engineering ethics finals as a case study! good thing i already watched this video like 5 time before already

                • AviaKevin
                  AviaKevin  1 weeks back

                  *When you start the video by dissing the 737max*

                  • jgraham342
                    jgraham342  2 weeks back

                    Boeing created the MSE program to bypass quality for schedule and profit. This is just the tip of the iceberg.....

                    • Tony Quigley
                      Tony Quigley  2 weeks back

                      a 13 min video.... it's good, but i could have made a 12 second video. "The reason Boeing designed and built the 737 max, is because Airbus announced the A320NEO in direct competition, a newer plane to the 737 and AA ordered 200 of them. And boeing weren't happy for their shareholders to they had a sh*t attack and LITERALLY instantly went in with their engineers to design a brand new update with the newer bigger engines for the 737.. thats why. And it worked, they got 100 of that order... it's about money money money. F8ck safety. Boeing kept talking about safety is the number 1 thing for them above all else. I'm like yeah, thats why you SNUCK in a single sensor system and told no one about it called MCAS, where because it's only a 1 sensor system, the plane wouldn't have to be certified and there'd be no simulator training ordered by the FAA, but also because of this, a MAJOR automated flight system thats hidden from the pilots and airlines has now been installed ad-hoc during testing when they found out about it, and it that SINGLE sensor has ANY kind of a problem the plane could go down. But Boeing STILL f*cking kiept it just a single sensor system, NOT because of their number 1 concern safety, but because if they took it down and desided it'd DEFINITELY be safer to have a 2 sensor system,. they'd lose the orders they already had on the plane and it'd have to be recertified. NO plane should EVER be allowed to have a flight control or data system that relies on a single sensor... my god.

                      • kentokyo
                        kentokyo  2 weeks back

                        I wouldn’t like 8 hours flight on 737.

                        • occhamite
                          occhamite  2 weeks back

                          This video is wrong in its conclusion.


                          There was nothing inherently wrong with Boeing's decision to build the 737Max.


                          The problems with MCAS are all down to poor engineering, and were easily avoidable.


                          Reliance on a single pitot sensor, and inadequate warnings to the crew - basic design blunders, that's all there is to it.

                          • Jane Lawson
                            Jane Lawson  2 weeks back

                            Man, screw capitalism. If everyone hadn't been so damn concerned about minimising costs, then hundreds of people would still be alive. They should have made a new plane that would have actually been safe, but investors didn't like that. I can't wait until we get rid of this trash economic system.

                            • Jack
                              Jack  2 weeks back

                              More like MAXimum fatalities.

                              • Lemonade lemon
                                Lemonade lemon  2 weeks back

                                Many
                                Casualty’s
                                Any
                                Second

                                • 0of_man 1234
                                  0of_man 1234  3 weeks back

                                  Airbus:our plane is high so we just add a THICC engine


                                  boeing:let’s make a horrible engine desing and put it on a horrible position and not tell pilots

                                  • Jacob Cudlitz
                                    Jacob Cudlitz  3 weeks back

                                    757 am i a joke to you

                                    • Ravi Sankhyan
                                      Ravi Sankhyan  3 weeks back

                                      This is good oh what happened with lion crash n Ethiopian air crash nonsense explain about MCAS

                                      • evans ekhator
                                        evans ekhator  3 weeks back

                                        Boeing is SCAM! Profit over SAFETY is their philosophy. SHAME!

                                        • Olivia Anna
                                          Olivia Anna  3 weeks back

                                          As much as I doubted it, I must say, the 737 max was the smoothest flight I ever had from the Midwest to California. I would still like to fly through all sorts of planes to see how they each perform.

                                          • Hussain Altajer
                                            Hussain Altajer  3 weeks back

                                            7:10 Bahrain

                                            • Kolerick Bloodmoon
                                              Kolerick Bloodmoon  4 weeks back

                                              hmmm, btw, if a plane that has more takeoff per day has a security problem precisely at the takeoff sequence, is it criminal to ignore said security problem?

                                              • John Jan Popovic
                                                John Jan Popovic  4 weeks back

                                                Frankenstein sloppy aerodynamics created by accountants and NOT by engineers

                                                • Anton Metrinskiy
                                                  Anton Metrinskiy  4 weeks back

                                                  You claim the greedy managers decided to upgrade old plane since its cheap and fast approach is the reason of failure? If yes, i disagree. This would be also the safest approach given the fact that the most of the plane systems are already flight proven. The problem is they did a new system MCAS and did poor risk management therefore spend not enough efforts to verify it works in all the circumstances i.e. failure cases. IMHO they could do pretty much the same with the completelly new plane with even higher probability.

                                                  • DDS Software
                                                    DDS Software  4 weeks back

                                                    if I wanted to know this I'd ask Boeing themselves.

                                                    • tbwpiper
                                                      tbwpiper  4 weeks back

                                                      Thanks Airbus employee for the most biased representation of the largest selling aircraft in the world. Perhaps there's a reason for that.

                                                      • metromoppet
                                                        metromoppet  4 weeks back

                                                        Hey! reign in the rhetoric! Don't for a second assume that you know what Any company assumed or not. State the facts or assume the liability of being sued for incorrectly dis informing the public at large. Get youre facts straight!!!

                                                        • metromoppet
                                                          metromoppet  4 weeks back

                                                          I was an apprentice when the airbus a320 launched, and when Boeing launched it's 737-300 . they are almost the same age! Incidentally, would you rather entrust your life to an electrical wire , or a mechanical connection physically uniting you and the control surface??? get an engineering degree before you start to elaborate on the merits of one system over another. Get your facts straight

                                                          • Marcos Torrani
                                                            Marcos Torrani  4 weeks back

                                                            I hope Muilenburg , Curly and Moe aviation die in hell!

                                                            • Nicolas Zart
                                                              Nicolas Zart  4 weeks back

                                                              Wow, I didn't know Boeing had raised its landing gear for the 737 MAX. And it still wasn't enough. Yikes, this gets worse as time goes by. Good point highlighting AA and airlines' negative roles in pressuring airframe makers into bad decisions. Ultimately, they do decide and investors have their share of the blame as well. It might take two to tango, in this case, it takes five, including the FGAA and Congress pushing for the ODA. The global geopolitical consequences are far greater than the tip of the iceberg.

                                                              • Jarek Jellison
                                                                Jarek Jellison  4 weeks back

                                                                6:34
                                                                That’s not a 777, that’s a 767

                                                                • Marczyk15
                                                                  Marczyk15  4 weeks back

                                                                  I think after all the shit that has happened this year with Boeing, I believe that they will loose some business for some time. Not to the point of near bankruptcy, but just reduced business.

                                                                  • Russ Gallagher
                                                                    Russ Gallagher  4 weeks back

                                                                    What airline is going to market this PoS ever again? The lawsuits being drafted right now against Boeing will cumulatively be in the billions. Every airliner that bought or leased this PoS has lost money on it. Those are customers that are going to Airbus for their next fleet acquisitions. As I understand the situation from a layman's viewpoint, the plane would have been safe IF it had a new type certification and pilots were trained [and certified] on the new handling characteristics. But, instead Boeing kept the pilots completely in the dark about what the unseen 3rd pilot - "Otto" - would do when a faulty sensor signal occurred. Dumbasses! The CEO just got shitcanned and while he'll never go hungry, it's the least the worthless BoD could do.

                                                                    • Nolan Schmidt
                                                                      Nolan Schmidt  4 weeks back

                                                                      Floppy diskskskskks how he say lah

                                                                      • barrie Williams
                                                                        barrie Williams  4 weeks back

                                                                        All about money, money, money!!

                                                                        • Joe Elkerovic
                                                                          Joe Elkerovic  1 months back

                                                                          airbus really played Boeing very well, they tricked them. Boeing was about to design a new aircraft with new modern characteristics that can outshine A320. The thing that can cost airbus a lot to create new plane. They knew that A320 is modern and can carry more upgrades and B737 not. So they pushed Boeing to decide on a hurry to catch up with them. Boeing could focused on making new model that can beat Airbus as they did for the A350 (airbus launched A350 years after B787 debut, this strategy gave airbus the opportunity improve more A350. Conclusion, airbus played mindgame with Boeing. They lose aircraft, money, marketshare and the most important TRUST. Boeing will never recover EVER (BTW i like Boeing)

                                                                        • Martin Korkos
                                                                          Martin Korkos  1 months back

                                                                          Best thing is that the same people who do these decisions then they go on the stage and talk about innovations.I bet they use 50 years old cars,and at home they have 50 years old "mobile phones".

                                                                          • Martin Korkos
                                                                            Martin Korkos  1 months back

                                                                            Result of not giving flying fuck is not having flying plane in the air.

                                                                            • Don Hawley
                                                                              Don Hawley  1 months back

                                                                              Best aircraft ever built DC3 737 and 747 man will never reach perfection though except for the armchair criticize or’s that missed their calling to design aircraft!

                                                                              • fruit
                                                                                fruit  1 months back

                                                                                Scrap the planes. Keep the engines

                                                                                • F R
                                                                                  F R  1 months back

                                                                                  I do not really get the training argument. You believe that AA wanted Boeing to create another improved 737 to reduce training cost but at the same time they order Airbus planes for the first time ever?! I think its a lot more likely that Boeing just wanted to safe money by improving on an existing model rather than designing an entirely new airplane.
                                                                                  Still really like your videos tho :D

                                                                                  • God's Love
                                                                                    God's Love  1 months back

                                                                                    Boeing knew what they did to these 737-800 MAX jets And murdered 346 passengers and crew members.

                                                                                    • Genda Minoru
                                                                                      Genda Minoru  1 months back

                                                                                      I am only :57 into this video and already there are too many false statements being told to bother to continue.  I don't want to spend the rest of my night going over each one to prove point after point with references.  I would just suggest that the author of the video do a significant amount of additional homework before putting such a video together.  -- I came here thinking I would learn something.  wrong place...

                                                                                      • mzamroni
                                                                                        mzamroni  1 months back

                                                                                        a380 was airbus' vietnam. 737 max is boeing's afghanistan

                                                                                        • Tom Meyers
                                                                                          Tom Meyers  1 months back

                                                                                          Boeing assumed no one would use an Uber driver to fly it.
                                                                                          They learned from this.